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Started by bella! [Ignore] 13,Aug,23 07:15  other posts
This thread is for questionable content. WHY? Just because! I am someone who enjoys the Hodge Twins. YEP, the Hodge Twins. They probably make the hairs on the back of a WOKE person stand straight up! Anyway.....

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By phart [Ignore] 12,Mar,26 09:51 other posts 
this is just outright wrong on so many levels. Had muslims not killed all those people.the memorial would not need to be there in the first place.
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By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 12,Mar,26 16:42 other posts 
You keep thinking that Jihadist terrorist and Muslims living in America have anything
in common. If they want to go to America, and they didn't do a suicide attack as soon as
they came in, then they are a very different type of Muslims.
By Lookatmine2 [Ignore] 14,Mar,26 03:26 other posts 
All Muslims are peaceful, until they’re not.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 15,Mar,26 06:11 other posts 
Which is the same for everyone else on this planet.
By Lookatmine2 [Ignore] 16,Mar,26 02:05 other posts 
Hmm. Who has been making the majority of the headlines, when it comes to being less than as peaceful as claimed over the past 50+ years?

Gosh! I don’t know! Could it be the same group that has politicized its religion so much that it no longer should be considered a religion and should lose its tax-exempt status? The same group that loves to loudly play calls to prayer 5 times daily in neighborhoods that once were peaceful and quiet? The same group that flew four commercial airliners into various object a few years back? The ones who love to shoot up synagogues? The ones who killed a bunch of kids at an open air concert in 2023? The same group that kills Jews at every opportunity, everywhere in the world?

Who could it be? Could it be the Methodists?

No, no, that’s not right.

How about Catholics?

No, that doesn’t seem right, either.

Maybe Hindus? Have they been doing stuff like that?

Nah!

How about Baptists? Mormons? Seventh Day Adventists? Buddhists? Sikhs? Jehovah’s Witnesses? Mennonites? SATANISTS?

No, no, no, no, no, no, and NO!

Gee! I wonder who it could be? I’m totally stumped!
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 16,Mar,26 05:18 other posts 
Headlines are politically and commercially motivated.
Politically: They are how politicians and supporters achieve their goals.
Commercially: They are how media companies attract eyeballs.

The US has attacked the most other countries, of all countries in the world.

According to the Congressional Research Service, the United States has carried out about 469 military interventions abroad since 1798. That's a clear #1 ranking.
#2: France with well over 100 campaigns or wars in the same period.
#3: Russia / Soviet Union: 30–40 major external interventions
#4: Germany: around 20–25 major invasions or wars
Muslim countries don't even make it to the list.

Why we fear Muslims so, is because that religion is able to motivate people to do suicide attacks the most. That installs fear in people. However, if you look at the deaths it causes, it's not even close. Jihadist terrorism has killed roughly 200,000
to 400,000 people in the last few decades. Before that, it hardly existed.

Jihadism isn't just a religion, it's a political ideology, just like fascism and communism. Those ideologies become lethal when leaders and movements turn them into absolute truths, promise a utopian future, identify enemies blocking that future, and mobilize followers or state power to eliminate those enemies. There is a difference though, while Islam and communism are not inherently violent, fascism is unique in that violence and domination are central to its ideology.

On pure death rates, Germany is the absolute record holder.

Germany:
World War II alone caused ~70–85 million deaths worldwide.
World War I caused ~15–20 million deaths.
Together: ~85–100 million deaths linked to wars Germany helped start.

Russia / USSR:
Russian Civil War: ~7–12 million deaths
Soviet invasion of Afghanistan: ~1–2 million deaths
Huge share of casualties in World War II (tens of millions)
Total across major conflicts: tens of millions.

United States:
Major wars involving the U.S. include:
Vietnam War: ~2–3 million deaths
Korean War: ~2–3 million deaths
Iraq War: hundreds of thousands (low estimate)
War in Afghanistan: ~170,000+ deaths
Combined wars involving the U.S.: several million deaths.

France:
Algerian War: ~300,000–1 million deaths
First Indochina War: ~400,000–1 million deaths
Total: hundreds of thousands to a few million.

If Islam was inherently evil, there would have never been an Islamic Golden Age, roughly from the 8th to 14th century (≈750–1258 CE), though some scholars extend it to the 15th century. The core period was generally more peaceful than much of contemporary Europe, enabling intellectual and economic growth. Cities like Baghdad, Córdoba, and Cairo became safe havens for scholars, traders, and artists.
Scholars and thinkers enjoyed a moderate degree of intellectual freedom.
Non-Muslims (Jews, Christians, Zoroastrians) often held important positions in administration and science. They offered a far greater religious tolerance than the Christian countries of that period. The Islamic Golden Age was one of exceptional scientific, cultural, and economic achievement. It's why we use Arabic numerals, Algebra is an Arabic word, many stars have Arabic names, why so many Greek, Persian, and Indian texts were preserved and why urbanization, agriculture, and industry thrived, spreading innovations widely.
By Lookatmine2 [Ignore] 16,Mar,26 07:10 other posts 
The golden age of Islam was more than 500 years ago. Since that time, this philosophy has made ZERO scientific, mathematic, medical, astronomical, nor any other scientific contributions to humanity.

You can see what it is today. This is what it is in the modern world, for all to see. It is a 7th century philosophy that has no place in modern western society.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 17,Mar,26 17:27 other posts 
Sure, I agree, since Al-Ghazali they have been stuck in the middle ages.
But it still means that the basis for their religion isn't worse than the basis
of Christianity. Christianity was stuck in the dark ages for 1600 years.
The West only went somewhere when we entered the “Enlightenment Age”.
I would say that the basis of Christianity was worse.
That's a 1th century philosophy that has no place in modern western society.
By Lookatmine2 [Ignore] 18,Mar,26 05:13 other posts 
That’s an apples-to-oranges comparison. The Enlightenment happened and we didn’t go back. Christianity adapted with the times and has moved on into the 21st century.

Meanwhile, the most radical elements in Islam have wanted to take us back to the 7th century for decades, and if we refuse to convert, their options are to tax the nonbelievers, enslave them, or eliminate them. The numbers of these fundamentalists are far greater than some would care to admit, and they are growing as that philosophy becomes more and more popular everywhere around the world.

There is no modern Christian equivalent to this in the 21st century.

The World Caliphate is the ultimate goal for the fastest growing “religion” in the world today. It is to become a Muslim world, to the exclusion of all other beliefs. Alternatively, the numbers of active Christian faithful shrink with each passing year. That cannot be said about Islam.

I am not a believer in any of it but given my druthers, I would very much prefer to live in a Christian society over a Muslim one. The Christians leave me alone.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 18,Mar,26 06:48 other posts 
That's not what I'm seeing.
There are many Christians going back to pre-enlightenment ideologies.

There are now several high ranked military officers preaching END TIMES!!!
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This is their belief:

1) Holy War / Moral Purge – Many Christian nationalists interpret global or domestic conflict as a “holy war” against perceived ungodly forces. This could involve literal or metaphorical battles, often framed as a defense of Christian values.

2) Rise of a Righteous Leader – They often envision a divinely appointed leader (sometimes equated with a modern “king” or U.S. president) who will restore Christian order and enforce God’s law.

3) Persecution of the Faithful / Tribulation – Following initial conflict, believers expect a period of intense trials or persecution, echoing the biblical Tribulation. This can include oppression by secular governments, anti-Christian legislation, or societal collapse.

4) Apocalyptic Signs – Natural disasters, wars, plagues, or astronomical events are seen as signs that the end is near. Many interpret modern geopolitical or environmental crises as fulfilling prophecy.

5) Defeat of Evil / Armageddon – The final confrontation between forces of good and evil, often framed as a literal battle, sometimes associated with the biblical Armageddon.

6) Millennial or Kingdom Era – After evil is vanquished, Christ or a divinely sanctioned ruler is believed to establish a godly reign on Earth—sometimes imagined as a Christian-dominated society or government.

7) Final Judgment – The ultimate end, where the faithful are rewarded and the wicked punished, consistent with traditional Christian eschatology.

For the Jews who tag along with these Christian nationalist ideology;
in step 2 they start the PURGE of the Holy Land, not from Muslims,
but from Jews.
"This is when anti-Semitic interpretations appear most prominently. Some narratives portray a “global persecution” where Israel or Jewish populations
are attacked or coerced as part of the unfolding apocalyptic events. In these views, the “purge” from the Holy Land or the suffering of Jews is part of fulfilling prophecy about trials before the Messiah or the final battle."


I also prefer to live in a Christian society over a Muslim one, or at least as we know them today. We’ve been spoiled by 250 years of liberalism, but currently,
our rights are under attack more than at any time in the last 80 years.

Better start paying attention, because they won't leave you alone for long.
By CAT52! [Ignore] 16,Mar,26 13:22 other posts 
One of the wonders of that time, even though it was established in the 4th century, was the Library of Alexandria, Egypt.
By Lookatmine2 [Ignore] 18,Mar,26 04:57 other posts 
It wasn’t the Muslims who built it.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 18,Mar,26 12:32 other posts 
Indeed, it wasn't, Muslims didn't even exist back then.
The city was named after the Greek Alexander the Great, who conquered Egypt
in 332 BCE, a Greek ruling class was established there, and Greek culture
became dominant in many urban centers, especially Alexandria.

However, the Islamic Golden Age was deeply influenced by Greek science, philosophy, and medicine. Islamic scholars translated key Greek texts into Arabic, especially from Aristotle, Plato, Galen, Hippocrates, Ptolemy, and others.
Centers like the House of Wisdom in Baghdad became hubs for translating, studying, and expanding on Greek knowledge.
Mathematics, astronomy, medicine, and philosophy from Greek sources
were adopted, critiqued, and advanced. The Islamic world actually continued where Greece stagnated, because Greece was under Byzantine Rule (the Eastern Roman Empire). Compared to the Islamic world, Byzantine scientific output was limited. Greece was preserving Greek culture, but most scientific innovation had moved to the Islamic world, where scholars were actively studying, critiquing,
and expanding on ancient Greek knowledge.

The Byzantine Empire was Christian, and it squashed Greek science.
The religion they had before that was Polytheistic, worshiping gods like Zeus, Athena, Apollo, and Poseidon. Apparently that religion was more conducive to science and enlightenment, than Christianity was. So was Islam at that time.
Obviously, Romans did pretty well in science before they turned to Christianity.
Not to say that there were no Christian scientists, but they often had to fear
for their lives if they challenged doctrines. It slowed down progress a lot.
I think it's fair to say that Christianity slowed down science and enlightenment,
for the longest period of all major religions in our history.
By CAT52! [Ignore] 18,Mar,26 12:35 other posts 
I didn’t say they did. I clearly said it was started in the 4th century and the Muslims started their movement in the 7th century. I was referring to the fact that that part of the world was very much enlightened before the European societies.
By Lookatmine2 [Ignore] 18,Mar,26 19:25 other posts 
The region was enlightened, and then Islam came and took them backward. The European enlightenment may have been more than a thousand years later, but it’s still with us.

Let us see if we can keep it and avoid becoming just like the “modern” Islamic world.
By CAT52! [Ignore] 18,Mar,26 19:29 other posts 
We are relatively new at this and judging by the events in the last twenty years, we won’t be on top 100 yrs from now. Maybe it in 50.
By phart [Ignore] 16,Mar,26 09:42 other posts 
not really you infidel When you are at gun or sword point and told convert to islam or die, that's when you will understand. OR when you lay dying in a sky scraper after a bunch of muslims flew a plane into it because they hate the country you happen to be in, then you will understand.


oh and to save you the googling,

in·fi·del
/ˈinfəd(əl,ˈinfəˌdel/
derogatory•archaic
noun
noun: infidel; plural noun: infidels; plural noun: the infidel

a person who does not believe in religion or who adheres to a religion other than one's own.
"a crusade against infidels and heretics"
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 17,Mar,26 14:18 other posts 
The chance of getting killed by an Islamic terrorist in my country, is lower than the chance of getting hit by lightning.
When YOU get shot, you have far less than 1% that it's an Islamic terrorist.
If you are the victim of a mass shooting, it's 50% - 66% likely to be a white man.

I'm definitely an 'infidel'. I knew the term.
There are 6 billion 'infidels' on this Earth. We'll be OK.
By Lookatmine2 [Ignore] 18,Mar,26 05:21 other posts 
The chances are far less for you to be killed by an actual Christian, than they are for you to meet your end at the hands of an Islamic terrorist.

And, your implicit racism is showing. White men can be Muslims, too. Check your prejudice.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 18,Mar,26 06:02 other posts 
Oh, an 'ACTUAL' Christian!?! Someone who's ideals come from Jesus?
I can only think of one in the US; James Talarico.
"Faith calls me to act for others, especially those who are struggling or underserved"
"feed the hungry, care for the sick, and serve the vulnerable";
I don't see many Christians in the US 'ACTUALLY' support that.
But I agree; 'ACTUAL' Christians don't pose much of a threat.
"Turning the other cheek" pretty much rules them out.

At least, if you are not doing financial businesses at 'the temple'.
Maybe look into the financial businesses of your 'temples'?
Christian nationalists are spreading blasphemy, for money from the wealthy.

How about an 'ACTUAL' Muslim?

What a strange argument for calling someone a racist. Racism means treating people unfairly, because of their race or perceived racial characteristics.
Was I treating someone unfairly, for excluding white men as possible Islamic terrorists? Well, I apologize to that white male Islamic terrorist, who ever he may be.

True, some white men are Muslim (1%–1.2%), but how many that 50%-66% are white (male) Islamic terrorists? I assure you, far less than 0.1%.

Here's the self identified religions of mass shooters:
Christian: 40–50%
Atheist/Agnostic/No Religion: 15–25%
Other religions (Muslim, Jewish, Hindu, etc.): 5–10%
Unknown/Undocumented: 20–40%

About the 5–10% other religions: Before you start about me saying that you have
far less than 1% that it's an Islamic terrorist, you don't call the 40–50% Christians
"Christian terrorists". Only when there is a good reason to assume that the religion was the reason for the mass shooting, do we call it religious terrorism.
By Lookatmine2 [Ignore] 18,Mar,26 21:01 other posts 
I am not surprised you would cite a person who purposefully misconstrues bible verses, or completely ignores whole passages of it, in order to fit his Leftist political agenda.

Birds of a feather, etc.

You will be interested to know there are a number of references in the very book he has cherry picked or deliberately misrepresented to suit himself and his political ends, and also for the people who would follow him, that are very fitting warnings. They are found in the New Testament, from which some of the laws of the US have been based.

Here’s a good one: Matthew 7:15, which states, "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves."

Timothy 4:3 states, "For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.”

Here’s a another one: Acts 28:28-30, which says, 28 "Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood.
29 "I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock.
30 "Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them.”

Yeah.

Moving on, there was a wise man who once said, “There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.” Manipulate the numbers in certain ways, and you will always get the results you desire.

Those numbers you’ve cited obviously ignore thousands of incidents involving Islamic terrorist acts world wide. We’re not dealing with just mass shooters here. We’re dealing also with bombings, stabbings, vehicular assaults, hijackings, honor killings, arsons, assassinations, sexual assaults, acid attacks, ad nauseam, along with the aforementioned and highly publicized mass shootings that catch the attention of a lot of Leftists as they ignore the aforementioned crimes against humanity.

Cherry picking statistics to get the result you want proves nothing except that you’ve cherry picked your data, to get the result you wanted! It’s true that a majority of mass spree shooters in the US could have been identified as Christian, because that is the single largest segment of the US population!

DOH! Calling Captain Obvious! Come in, Captain Obvious!

There is nothing unusual in that, because it is statistically likely to be the most common identifier in a country dominated by Christian laws and morality. The numbers are ever in its favor, no matter how thinly you try to slice it and call it salami!

However, it can still be argued that, while these incidents are extremely bad (because they are), the motivations driving a vast majority of these shootings are not related to any identifiable religious motivations. This is because, as a whole, they were not! They have been primarily secular or political in nature, and any Christian connection was only made only after the fact in nearly all these cases, which could easily be claimed as an attempt to sully the reputations of people of the Christian faith in this country.

On the other hand, and it’s going to get ugly, nearly all of the incidents of violence committed around the world (the key words to note here are “around,” “the,” and “world”) by Islamists and even by seemingly “normal" Muslims, have been proven to be motivated by their religious beliefs, spurred on and encouraged by the teachings and propaganda of the proponents of the continuing and very active expansion of that very religion. Their rantings, ravings, social media posts, Tik Toks, and official press releases all point to that very fact.

It’s not about dissatisfaction or rights or resistance to oppression. The ultimate goal is the establishment of the World Caliphate so that the end times come and everyone can go to paradise.

Timothy McVeigh did not blow up a federal building because the Bible told him so. He did it in a misguided and evil effort to lash out at the federal government for its perceived overreach.

Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold did not shoot up a bunch of high school kids and teachers because Jesus saves. They did it to terrorize an entire community simply because they were spoiled upper middle class brats who hated their lives and were angry at the world.

And, how about this? How do you explain the latest rash of multiple mass spree shootings committed by persons who definitely have NOT identified as Christians, but as something other than what they were actually born? Several of those attacks have even been directed AGAINST Christians and their institutions.

Your statistics don’t hold much water, really, especially when it comes to the reality of the threats that endanger millions of people around the entire planet. Your laser focus on one small segment of people inside a larger group purposefully excludes the wider reality of the actual real world threat against humanity, merely so it can fit your narrative.

The world sure do look a lot different with blinders on, don’t it!

It’s easy to point to any target you choose in order to make your point. All you need to do is ignore the facts and reality that do not align with your own beliefs and you can begin painting the exceptions with the wide brush of generalization.

And people on the Left still have the gall to claim that Christians alone are guilty of that! Today’s secularist Leftists make those Bible-thumping cherry pickers look like rank amateurs!


By phart [Ignore] 17,Mar,26 16:35 other posts 
gota get a handle on these robots! Running amuck!
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I am looking forward to the tech being less buggy and more reliable.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 18,Mar,26 06:44 other posts 
And that's how it started...


By phart [Ignore] 12,Mar,26 15:40 other posts 
People always bitch about Trump being a draft dodger, well gee, heres another 1 that surprised me.
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I will say I don't watch his movies anymore since he came out supporting a democrat presidential candidate in the last election.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 12,Mar,26 16:26 other posts 
Since when do we have the same standard for presidents as for actors?
By Lookatmine2 [Ignore] 16,Mar,26 07:11 other posts 
Since the Democrats attempted to demonize Ronald Reagan in the 1980s.
By phart [Ignore] 16,Mar,26 09:39 other posts 
Well, Ananas, sadly in the US people tend to idolize ball players, actors, criminals ,and look up to them as role models. Where as back when I was young, you looked up to the President as being a respectable job. I just find it ironic that when Trump ran for President ,the fact he didn't go into the military due to a minor health issue was so terrible. But yet, you have a actor that everyone respects, Harris actually paid to campaign for her and etc, that found a strange way to get out using technicality's and that is just fine for him to do that. Really??? double standard yet again.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 17,Mar,26 14:28 other posts 
It's not just his bone spurs that Trump lowered the standards of the presidency with,
it's literally everything about the man. His persona wouldn't be acceptable for a ball players, actors, or any other role models. Sure, possibly for a criminal, but people would shy away from him, if he had any more respectability to keep up than a rapper.

I think it would be a scandal if a rapper called a female journalist 'piggy'.
That's just a small example of the thousands I could give.
Before Trump, it was considered not presidential to wear a tan suit.
Did they call him "vermin" and "scum"?
Dit they call his voters "the enemy within"?


By bella! [Ignore] 08,Mar,26 14:20 other posts 
CAMPUS GUARDIAN ANGEL

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By dgraff [Ignore] 08,Mar,26 19:00 other posts 
That would work
But it is not as colorful or exciting as Dirty Harry driving his squad car through the front door jumping out and blasting the shooter with his 44 magnum
By bella! [Ignore] 08,Mar,26 22:22 other posts 
But if memory serves me correctly, school shooters are typically young folks. You want to send in Dirty Harry to take out a kid?


By CAT52! [Ignore] 07,Mar,26 07:40 other posts 
Anyone know this jerk?


Mar 7, 00:10 system: You were blacklisted by @Ronnie64@
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Never mind. I think he’s gone.
By dgraff [Ignore] 08,Mar,26 19:01 other posts 
He’s some gay guy that hates women


By bella! [Ignore] 05,Mar,26 22:26 other posts 
Georgia father Colin Gray found guilty in connection with school shooting his son is accused of.

Do you support the jury’s decision?

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By CAT52! [Ignore] 06,Mar,26 08:52 other posts 
I don’t know enough to have an opinion. What I do have is a bad taste in my mouth about a person being prosecuted for another person’s crimes.
By phart [Ignore] 06,Mar,26 16:43 other posts 
Well that is part of parenting. If the kid was under 18, yep, he is responsible. BUT it still won't bring back the victims.


By phart [Ignore] 21,Feb,26 21:03 other posts 
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By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 25,Feb,26 08:59 other posts 
'Someone said something'? Is that NEWS to you?

Your PRESIDENT says something stupid 1000 times per day.
This is some random professor, and I did not see any evidence of any guy saying that.

How about Making Americans Healthy Again? Your regime is already letting go of the idea of restricting all those chemicals in your food. One bribe, and the plan is gone.

Meanwhile, your regime is canceling the regulations against glyphosate, which is causing cancer, and Trump has taken executive action to protect and boost the production of glyphosate.

Trump is also weakening rules limiting harmful mercury, air toxins from coal plants.
You want to cry about MILK, while your president is POISONING you?
By phart [Ignore] 25,Feb,26 19:41 other posts 
The smoke from coal can be filtered much cheaper than rebuilding the entire energy grid.
Weed killer can be applied in a safer manner with new tech.Not long ago a rolling "sponge" system was in the news to apply the chemicals without "spray" going everywhere, saving chemical-money and reducing the dangers.. I had to use alot of it on my job and side work. Not much other way to keep gravel drive ways grass free and grooves in sidewalks clean from weeds otherwise.
By CAT52! [Ignore] 25,Feb,26 19:53 other posts 
Maybe the cost is cheaper and can be achievedin the UNITED STATES, but the problem is that private enterprise (all those use charcoal) refuse to do the right thing. Why haven't they don't it? Then there's the REST OF THE WORLD that doesn't give a damn about anyone including us.
By phart [Ignore] 25,Feb,26 20:58 other posts 
Well considering you finally admitted the rest of the world doesn't give a damn about us, maybe it's past time we quit worrying about them and did what it takes to fix our own wagon?
By CAT52! [Ignore] 26,Feb,26 09:54 other posts 
What do you propose? The Clown did not truthfully address the costs in our economy. He didn’t say a thing how he’s going to protect us from the environment. He didn’t say jack shit about how the regular people are going to afford healthcare. So, Phart, what’s on your mind?
This is NOT about 'rebuilding the entire energy grid',
this is about current emission standards for coal plants,
being relaxed to allow coal plants to emit more toxins,
to save some money, and as a result poison your people.
By Limpy_Doodle [Ignore] 26,Feb,26 10:27 other posts 
what a dope
By Limpy_Doodle [Ignore] 26,Feb,26 10:34 other posts 
are you finally finished? And for this I've decided on voting for Trump as he runs for 3 term.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 26,Feb,26 11:19 other posts 
Do you want to be a fucking traitor to your own CONSTITUTION?

Trump took an oath to protect The Constitution.
If he even attempts a third term, he will be branded a traitor, for the rest of history,
and everyone who aided and abetted it will be branded an enemy of the people.
By Limpy_Doodle [Ignore] 26,Feb,26 12:03 other posts 
Man you're a fucking traitor to God.. Yesh man,, you're just all messed up.. What a fucking moron.. wasted life..
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 26,Feb,26 12:34 other posts 
God? I'm talking about your president!
Your president is the least Christian person ever elected president in the US.

I have no allegiance to your fantasy, so I'm not a traitor to your fantasy.
You are however a citizen of the US, with an allegiance to your Constitution.
You have pledged that allegiance hundreds of times. Didn't you?
By Limpy_Doodle [Ignore] 26,Feb,26 18:41 other posts 
No faith in God. . You are a shit smearing turd.

Just total garbage..
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 27,Feb,26 04:35 other posts 
I didn't even use the word 'faith'. I said 'allegiance'. That's different.
'Faith' is forcing yourself to believe something for which you have no evidence.

If you had evidence for your beliefs, it would not be 'faith' and 'beliefs'.

You don't need to have 'faith' or a 'belief' that the Earth is a rotating globe
orbiting the sun. You can just accept the mountains of evidence that prove it.
Or you can choose to ignore it all, and force yourself to believe that the Earth is flat, for which the flat earthers cannot even present a working model. That is 'faith'.

Since there is no evidence for the god that you choose to believe in, I do not.

I'm guessing you think there is reason to Pascal's Wager.
It states that you better believe in a god, for IF heaven and hell are real.
How about IF there is a god, but he HATES people believing ideas on faith?
Then your 'Pascal's Wager' doesn't work and you will go to hell.
But why would your god give me logic and then punish me for using it?

You can have faith, but you will INEVITABLY find out if you are wrong.
God will tell you that you did NOT listen to the message of Jesus.
Jesus taught us to care for the poor, hungry, sick, outcasts, sinners, strangers, children, and the oppressed. YOU are supporting the exact OPPOSITE.

I might be an atheist, but I value Jesus's message more than you.
I might be forgiven for not believing, or not, but will you be forgiven
for rejecting EVERYTHING ELSE that Jesus cared about?

Unless I am right, then you will never know, because you'll just be dead.
Then you wasted your life and othered your fellow humans over NOTHING.
You can pretend to be sure, but you are not. You are only sure about LIFE.
By Limpy_Doodle [Ignore] 27,Feb,26 10:29 other posts 
You really don't have any idea what you are doing.. Jesus was a Jew that studied Torah and Kabbalah.. He didn't call the true nature of existence of christianity and he is God.. This is all crap..

Faith is what broadens your horizons. Horizons meaning libraries of knowledge not just logical calculation but including what feels right.

Faith gives you a goal to converge an issue into a singularity.
Faith is the trigger giving the desire to seek the truth.
Faith gives you compassion.
Faith stimulates focus.
Faith enhances conviction.
Faith stimulates convergence.
Faith maintanes focus.
Faith inputs greater libraries of knowledge.
Faith simplifies and converges into a singularity into divergence. Another term for divergence is freedom. Convergence using faith creates singularity
Faith is used once inspiration is established so that you can compose and you are telling me it isn't?
Faith creates leadership
Faith makes you zoom out enabling you to see the whole picture.

This is why your arguments here are far from accurrate.

Faith is everything and that's why we will never reach a joining of seeing truth. You don't get it and that's why you cannot reason. You're desires are egoistic so its not focused on the greater good of moral clarity. Your focus is based on you.How you can diverge into truth is through empathy and altruism. Egoism is nothint but a spectre...Generally stated you are living a lie.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 27,Feb,26 10:43 other posts 
To me that's just a story, with no more credibility than the Koran, the Bhagavad Gita, the Norse Pantheon, Hesiod's Theogony, Homer's Iliad and Odyssey, etc.

You're the one being egoistic, thinking that YOU picked the right religion,
from all the others that exist and ever existed. Everyone who believe(d)
in those religions thinks they are SPECIAL to believe the one true religion.
Explain why you are correct and all of them are mistaken.
You cannot, without being incredibly egoistic.

Faith isn't truth, it's convincing yourself that something is true.
Faith can be powerful, but that's no argument for it providing truth.
People burn themselves or blow themselves up for their faith.
You cannot not explain why they are wrong and you are correct,
without making a circular argument, and without being egoistic.

Why are you not reacting to what you know to be true; "Jesus taught us to care for the poor, hungry, sick, outcasts, sinners, strangers, children, and the oppressed."?
You know that you cannot defend your support for Trump on those teachings.
Where is your 'greater good of moral clarity', on that?

Matthew 19:24 - "It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God."
Trump seems to worry lately that he will not be allowed into heaven.
Seeing the way in which Trump made his money and what he has been doing
for the poor, hungry, sick, outcasts, sinners, strangers, children, and the oppressed lately, that's pretty clear, if you accept what Jesus said.
What did Jesus say about what Trump should do?

Do you think taking some more money away from SNAP, pediatric cancer research, healthcare subsidies and AIDS relief for Africa, to cut more taxes
for the wealthy... Is that how he gets into heaven?

Do you think that Trump protecting child sex-slave traffickers will get him
into heaven? And why is Trump mentioned in those files SO MANY TIMES?
By Limpy_Doodle [Ignore] 27,Feb,26 13:04 other posts 
Faith isn't truth, ,,, oh yes it isindirectly. Faith in purity is the path of pure existence.. I am beginning to get a clearer picture your educational background.. Saying faith is not striving for truth shows poor reasoning capability because your egoism swallows you.. no growtih potential.. sad
Altruism refers to selfless behavior or actions done to benefit others without expecting personal gain, reward, or recognition, focusing purely on another's well-being out of empathy or a sense of duty, and can range from small kindnesses to significant sacrifices. It involves prioritizing others' needs, often leading to positive outcomes like increased happiness for both the giver and receiver, and fostering stronger social connections.. This is also known as the art of creation. Easy
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 27,Feb,26 15:25 other posts 
How do you make this shit up? I don't think that this sounds logical to even a devout Christian.

If faith leads to truth, why do all religious people have completely different opinions on what that truth is?

You keep talking about 'altruism', but you are supporting Trump, one of the least altruistic people in the world.
You are AGAIN ignoring the message of Jesus, to care for the poor, hungry, sick, outcasts, sinners, strangers, children, and the oppressed. Trump is doing the opposite. Your support for Trump and you talking about altruism are not compatible.

"It involves prioritizing others' needs" Like the needs of children of immigrants, who were brought to your country by their parents and get deported to a horrible detention center? Show that you have even ONE objective for the needy people in your country that actually shows empathy and altruism.
By Limpy_Doodle [Ignore] 27,Feb,26 15:46 other posts 
Faith is not a religion. Putting words in the mouth of stupidity where you have shined ... Faith shows clarity on the true path to God. OR/AND a clear understanding of the truth educating you of what is right and virtuious. Faith has nothing to do with egoism or you...

. Religion is nothing but a political movement... Just like you....making shit up gives me advantage since I am telling the truth while all you do is live a lie?

Faith is the catalyst leading our desires finding the truth that shows truth over lying which you are. Egoism is you, atruism is the polar opposite of egoism. Only way to achieve altrism by making All True.. so faith is the catalyst..

I am an altruist that supports Donald Trump.. since you are an egoist then it makes sense your hatred towards Donalk Trump.. Easy Every single truth to you is a lie towards everyone else including yourself which is a terrible sad reality.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 28,Feb,26 06:27 other posts 
If you have faith in humanity, it is indeed not a religion.
If you have faith in a deity, as described in holy books, it is.

There is no evidence of any deity, as described in holy books, but there is evidence to have faith in humanity. It could be a misjudgement, but at least we know we EXIST.

In the US, religion is nothing but a political movement, and you are following the problematic ideology of it exactly.

It's obvious that faith makes you stop thinking. You don't want to listen to anyone with other opinions, you refused to argue yours. You dismiss the overwhelming scientific consensus as lies. It's like you are saying to a electronics engineer: "You're lying about microchips and digital code, this mobile phone is MAGIC!".

WHY are you supporting Donald Trump. There is no REASON for it.
It would be just as stupid for a socialist to support Jeff Bezos.
By Limpy_Doodle [Ignore] 28,Feb,26 09:52 other posts 
Donald Trump is a leader to me, not to you.
The altruistic approach can see this. You can't. since you are egoist what is it in for you? You cannot love. You cannot be kind to animals. You can not show empathy for what matters most. Your reasoning is no reasoning. All you do is shit out propaganda supporting your political ideology. It is not seeking the truth therefore you do not have faith.

Conclusion is since you know the truth and to divert it leaves you dangerous for people that have not seen the truth yet. They are still in germination of learning so you hope to breinwash them at their most vulberable stages of life.I can see your intentions easily. look at your replies as untrue since I searth for truth. Yes you are an egoist but what is laughable is your twisted views of what is good for you actually makes you more vulnerable and unproductive. Instead of building you do the best you can to destroy. You are evil and spread lies mixing the truth so you can attack my president..
You were born an egoist you will die an egoist. A forgotten memory. You cannot see a vision into the future. This is the final nail in the coffin.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 01,Mar,26 09:15 other posts 
"The altruistic approach" is a selfless, compassionate philosophy that prioritizes the well-being and needs of others over one's own, often without expecting external rewards. Donald Trump does NOT in any way prioritize the well-being and needs of others over his own.
He has taken billions in 'rewards', since he became president again.

"You cannot be kind to animals."
Of course I can. I want to live in a 'nice world' remember?
In a 'nice world' we are kind to each other AND to animals.
Why do fail to understand even the simplest concept?

The US has a much higher percentage of Christians than Sweden, which is the MOST secular nation IN THE WORLD. Still Sweden has much stronger and more comprehensive animal welfare laws than the United States.

There is the Animal Protection Index (API), by World Animal Protection,
which scores countries on there 'kindness to animals'.
A is the highest score, but no country has reached it.
There are 6 countries who get a score of B: Austria, Denmark, Sweden, Switzerland, UK, Netherlands, all very secular governed countries.
The US gets a score of D, together with Canada, Brazil, Mexico, South Africa. Except for Canada, these are very religious countries.
Why do I not see any countries where people practice 'faith' the most, getting an A in 'kindness to animals'?
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By Limpy_Doodle [Ignore] 01,Mar,26 13:45 other posts 
I used patterns of behavior to determine you are completely unhinged and going off the deep end.lol

Yeah, you're just all messed up..

I don't follow the christians.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 01,Mar,26 14:10 other posts 
What behavior? Being mostly civil to a guy who's being an ass-hole?
Yeah, that's messed up isn't it.

If you are the same guy I talked with before, you basically said that it doesn't really matter what you choose to believe in, as long as you make yourself believe in it, with everything you got.
I don't want to straw-man you on that, so correct me if I misunderstood.

So, how does that lead to truth. It would mean that there is no difference whatever holy book I pick, as long as I live and breath it for years, until I make myself believe it. Right?
By Limpy_Doodle [Ignore] 27,Feb,26 13:52 other posts 
you view it as just a story? This is why you fail.
By Limpy_Doodle [Ignore] 27,Feb,26 16:04 other posts 
Donald Trump is not a child sex trafficker.... Are you? Sounds like it.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 01,Mar,26 09:23 other posts 
I said "protecting child sex-slave traffickers".
He is pressuring HIS DOJ to bury the Epstein files and thereby let all these horrible criminals who are complicit in Epstein's crimes go free.

Why is he doing that? The most logical reason is that he is ONE OF THEM.
By Limpy_Doodle [Ignore] 27,Feb,26 13:42 other posts 
What are the 7 characteristics of faith?

Seven common characteristics of faith, especially from a spiritual perspective, include Trust, acceotabce, Perseverance, Love, Humility, Hope, and cconformance using free will.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 27,Feb,26 15:27 other posts 
I agree that faith can bring people ALL OF THAT.
But you can have that by having faith in UNICORNS.
There is absolutely no reason for faith to result in TRUTH.
By Limpy_Doodle [Ignore] 27,Feb,26 16:05 other posts 
That is illogical since faith is everthing. Egoism or narcissism is a desire to make the world revolve around you.. Naturally that would reflect your attitudes and desires are for you.. You are living a lie since the world does not revolve around you therefore what you are representing is pseuto-appearance , untrue, therefore you are a liar.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 01,Mar,26 09:30 other posts 
Faith in WHAT? Faith in a god? Which one?
Unless you pick one from a holy book, you have no idea what to have faith in.

It's egoism/narcissism to think that YOU picked the right god to have faith in.

I KNOW the world doesn't revolve around me, but I know what I like about the world and what I don't like about the world. I don't like to live in a world where people like YOU justify EVIL, done by your president, with some nonsense about faith.

You're a liar, because you cannot justify your opinions transparently.
By Limpy_Doodle [Ignore] 27,Feb,26 19:17 other posts 
There is absolutely no reason for faith to result in TRUTH./////// seriously,, are you fucking kidding me? All you have is your reality. You just believe what is true for the benefit for you, nothing more.. you come first.

I'm sad for you because you are going to find out you have done nothing but lying to yourself.. Its sad.. When you lash out like this you are not hurting anyone,, anyone except yourself. Is this considered suicide?'

All I've done up to this point is to listen..The wise man listen while the fools chatter. I don't make accusations on people, you do. There is always water at the bottom of the ocean they say..
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 28,Feb,26 06:28 other posts 
How do you choose what to have faith IN?
By phart [Ignore] 28,Feb,26 21:03 other posts 
why is it when it comes to something like gun control the liberals are so quick to hollar it doesn't refer to ar-15's or it can be changed, but when it comes to illegal immigrants we are supposed to read it to mean only 1 thing and it is concrete?
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 01,Mar,26 09:37 other posts 
What are you talking about?

Both in the cases of gun control and illegal immigrants having rights,
The Constitution is very clear. It's your side that wants to read it in the way
it pleases you, instead of in the way the founding fathers meant it.

You don't have to distort or spin the words of the amendments to make believe
that you are right, because the founding fathers had written lots of additional texts,
like The Federalist Papers, notes from the Constitutional Convention, records from ratification convention debates, the United States Bill of Rights, and personal letters and writings, telling you EXACTLY what the meant and why.
By CAT52! [Ignore] 26,Feb,26 14:37 other posts 
I see Limpy_doodle is back showing us his third grade Constitutional knowledge.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 27,Feb,26 05:08 other posts 
Don't children typically start reciting the Pledge of Allegiance in kindergarten
or first grade?

How many times do people need to say "liberty and justice for all", before it sticks?

We don't do that in my country. No pledging, no flagging, just teaching kids to be decent towards other people. There are still a lot of idiots who never learn that, but not enough to get a Trump. We just get decades of nice neo-liberal con artists, who slowly cut away at our benefits, in favor of the wealthy they serve. But with a nice smile and better lies, instead of getting gaslit and shot in the face.
By CAT52! [Ignore] 27,Feb,26 08:02 other posts 
We don’t require saying (or standing for it even), the pledge of allegiance. Same with prayers. Actually, the only thing we seem to require is how to turn on a cell phone and participate in Tik Tok. Oh, yeah, taking courses on how to shoot a gun too. This is for extra credit in case the student misspells the Clown’s name.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 27,Feb,26 08:12 other posts 
Are you sure that American children, in every school, are allowed to not participate
in the Pledge of Allegiance? Maybe on paper, but I am sure that there are schools
that would make it at least very uncomfortable for children who refuse to participate.

Aks yourself what your country is asking from those children.
They have no idea yet about the meaning of what they are doing.
How can they freely decide to participate or not, in something they do not
understand yet. It means that they will just do what their parents told them to do.

I think most children only actually understand the rights that are established in
The Constitution, from an age of 14. Asking younger children to pledge allegiance
to those ideas, before they understand them, I think, turns it into a ritual, that makes it lose it's meaning, before they actually understand it.

Found this link afterwards. (Danielle Khalaf was born in the United States)
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She is 14, about the age that you can understand the concept of a genocide
and why you should be able to protest a country supporting it.
"go back to your country" is pure discrimination. She is American.
By CAT52! [Ignore] 27,Feb,26 11:40 other posts 
No, public school students in the United States are not required to say the Pledge of Allegiance. Under the 1943 Supreme Court ruling West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette, forcing students to recite the pledge violates their First Amendment rights against compelled speech. Students may silently sit or stand, but cannot be punished for not participating.
The Hill

Now, this is in public schools. Private schools have their own rules. Having said all that, you are right that pressure can be and probably is applied.
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My country has the biggest group of functional illiterates in the developed countries. We grow up with the idea we are the best in the world because of our huge military and bottomless resources. That makes most citizens complacent and ignorant of what is valuable in life and how to respect the world.
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I also have to give Phart for some of the truth he spouts. That’s that liberals have pushed the envelope so far to the left in the last 75 yrs that it’s become ridiculous. Too much conservatism or too much liberalism is bad. We have the Clown because we went to far and now the pendulum is swinging too far to the right. We need balance.
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Give Phart some credit
By phart [Ignore] 27,Feb,26 14:44 other posts 
Now that kind of talk brings folks at least to the table for further discussion. GO teach that to your radical left.
By CAT52! [Ignore] 27,Feb,26 16:55 other posts 
Only if you go and teach it to your radical right
How can it be true "that liberals have pushed the envelope so far to the left
in the last 75 yrs that it’s become ridiculous" while simultaneously your country
has more inequality than EVER BEFORE?

The right makes you think that 'left' means culture war bullshit.
It's not, that's just a distraction from the VERY REAL class war we are in.
Be careful that you don't bite in their mind traps.
By phart [Ignore] 27,Feb,26 14:42 other posts 
I don't know what school you went to but we stood for the flag with our hands on our hearts and And yes in the 8th grade we had a gun safety course. Still have the card.
By CAT52! [Ignore] 27,Feb,26 16:57 other posts 
When I went to school we had to stand to recite the pledge of allegiance. That was the reason there were lawsuits to stop the practice.
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The truth as I see it? We should require our kids to pledge themselves to the flag and the Constitution.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 05,Mar,26 11:59 other posts 
No, you should TEACH them about the Constitution.
Rituals like that are a tool to stop people from thinking.
It's why the worst traitors wrap themselves in the flag.


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