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By leopoldij [Ignore] 05,May,25 21:20 other posts 
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By phart [Ignore] 06,May,25 11:35 other posts 
uh, do yourself a favor and look at Trumps first term.
then you need to understand this is only 4 months into his second term ,after 4 years of joe biden making a mess in his depends and the country
By leopoldij [Ignore] 06,May,25 19:54 other posts 
People don't like dictators.
By phart [Ignore] 06,May,25 22:17 other posts 
well, that's what most countrys have if you really look things over closely.
in ukraine, zelenski has seized power because the country is at war, not allowing for a election for the people to select another.
By leopoldij [Ignore] 07,May,25 16:07 other posts 
I'm sorry you like dictators. You're the anathema of the human species.
By CAT52! [Ignore] 08,May,25 00:37 other posts 
Most countries have dictators? Hmmmm.
By phart [Ignore] 09,May,25 21:31 other posts 
what does cuba have?
what does north korea have?
what does russia have?
what does england have?a king you say? not much difference.
ukraine, may as well call their leader a dictator,he is not legit now because a election was missed

In 2019, there were 92 countries considered to be dictatorships, while 87 were considered democracies, according to the Carnegie Corporation of New York. This indicates that dictatorships outnumbered democracies at that time, with 70% of the world's population living in authoritarian regimes.
By CAT52! [Ignore] 10,May,25 00:11 other posts 
ictatorship Countries 2025
As of 2020, there are 52 nations with a dictator or authoritarian regime ruling the country: Three in Latin America and South America, 27 in Asia and the rest in
Some are dictatorships with wide range if citizen right.
England has a monarch as a figure head but parliament and the Prime Minister do the governing and they are elected
There are 15 democracies with kings.
There are 8 dictatorships with kings.

There are 120 democracies with presidents.
There are 60 dictatorships with presidents.

That's about the same ratio of democracies vs dictatorships.

By 2020 numbers, the top 5 most democratic countries were:
#1 Denmark: king
#2 Norway: king
#3 Finland: president
#4 Sweden: king
#5 Germany: president
Those kings serve a ceremonial role with limited or no political power.

The UK ranked as #17 most democratic country (Working Democracy)
The US ranked as #36 most democratic country (Deficient Democracy)
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In 2025, the US was demoted to "Flawed Democracy".
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That was just after Elon Musk meddled in the presidential campaign.

I cannot find any more recent assessments of America's democracy,
but we can expect it to drop like a rock.


By CAT52! [Ignore] 02,May,25 08:53 other posts 
The Clown, "I will end that war in one day."

"The United States will no longer act as a mediator in peace negotiations between Ukraine and Russia, the State Department has confirmed, signalling a shift in Washington’s role in the ongoing conflict."
By phart [Ignore] 02,May,25 10:01 other posts 
well, how much time and resources would you tie up in a hopeless case like this? neither party is willing to give up anything. ukraine wants more weapons, russia wants the land it has taken. russia might agree to end it if they kept the land they have taken. but ukraine just wants more weapons to keep killing and continue the killing of it's people.

it is a lost cause. time to focus on America.
By CAT52! [Ignore] 02,May,25 10:10 other posts 
So.... the Clown was wrong?
By phart [Ignore] 02,May,25 13:02 other posts 
in this case, he may have had good intentions, and miss read his dealings with putin. whatever kind of brain tumor or whatever putin has medically has screwed up his thinking and he is unpredictable.

putin has not always been this way,russia was prospering before he went to ukraine.alot of US investments in cattle ranches for example in russia and bussiness's of all kinds.
putin changed, and perhaps Trump has read him wrong.
By leopoldij [Ignore] 02,May,25 14:11 other posts 
Are you REALLY expecting phart to admit that his god was bullshitting?

Of course he won't. His submissiob to trump is infinite. Never ever he will admit that anything.

Let's remember what the trump said:
-- If I get elected I'll end the wars in a week.
-- If I get elected prices will go down.
-- If I get elected America will be great.
Etc etc etc etc

Nothing of that sort has happened.
He just wanted to be voted by stupid people like phart who are blinded by gods bearing orange halos.
If you give the Russians all the land that they stole so far,
what will stop them continuing the war in a few years from now?

Putin should not be able to sell this as a win to the Russians.
Russians should be thinking: "Did he fucking send us to die for THAT?!?".

You keep thinking this is only important for Ukraine.
It's not, it's to prevent even more war in the future.
Be happy this hasn't turned into WWIII. The next one might.
And it's the Ukrainians who are fighting like lions to prevent that.

"but ukraine just wants more weapons to keep killing and continue the killing of it's people."
So you just want them to surrender? Any idea what happens to the people then?
Ukrainians have been living under Russian rule before. They were eating their dead,
to not starve too, while the Russians were working them to death.
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By phart [Ignore] 02,May,25 12:59 other posts 
but with your thinking, the fighting will continue and people will die.

putin won't last forever,

there is no positive outcome.
if putin picked up his ball and went home today, what is stopping him from retooling and coming back 5 years from now? so just ending the war and giving back the land is a temporary fix as well.

as the polish president said a year or more ago, the drowning man will take you down with him if you allow him to.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 02,May,25 15:01 other posts 
I just told you that surrendering would mean lots of them dying too.
Putin wants Ukraine for Russia, without Ukrainians on that land.
For all we know, he would transport them all to extermination camps.

Putin indeed won't last forever, but this ideology is bigger than him. If you turn him
into a hero, that ideology will last many of his successors. If you turn him into a loser, that ideology might very well die with him. Trump is making him a winner.

What do think would have happened, if the world had surrendered to Hitler?
He would have mass murdered every last Jew and then everyone else he considered sub-human. Giving up the fight against monsters like that, doesn't lower the body count, it only increases it. Maybe not in the short-term, but most definitely long-term. When you allow their power to grow, it will only cost more lives to eventually beat them.

It's exactly like beating cancer. Allow it to grow and you die. Fight it with everything
you have, and you have a chance to conquer it.

Putin still has the support, even though passively, of the Russian people. If he doesn't succeed in what he promised them, they will not support him in the next war.

A drowning man with support of lots of people can take more people down with him than a drowning man that his people will want to see drown.
By phart [Ignore] 02,May,25 16:40 other posts 
there is no ideal end to this war.
someone will be unhappy.
and if it is putin, he will be back,
or his followers will.

if both parties are not willing to sit down and talk peace,then peace can't happen. and so far all zelenski has done is ask for more weapons. so how can you interpret that as wanting peace?
By Cody8789 [Ignore] 02,May,25 19:35 other posts 
The u.s just made a deal with Ukraine for the mineral rights on there land, now American business will be on the land digging the minerals, if the Russians invade they will be killing Americans which will bring the u.s. into a major war.
By phart [Ignore] 02,May,25 22:29 other posts 
yea, that part of the deal i don't like.
i think the ukrainians should be doing the digging and we simply drive a ship up to a dock and load up. jobs for ukrainins to better their lives.

i am thankful that we as a country will finally start getting something in return for all that was spent on ukraine.
just hope we get enough to make it worth our efforts.
By leopoldij [Ignore] 03,May,25 07:52 other posts 
The US never spends money or launches a war unless there is a financial benefit: oil, water, minerals, hegemony,... Alas, all wars launched by the US after 1945 (Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, ...) have resulted in the defeat of the US.
You just basically said "To hell with Ukrainians, let Russia slaughter them off!".
And now you say "jobs for ukrainins to better their lives"?
That's some crazy flip-flopping! What 'thinking' is behind that?
By Gntlmn [Ignore] 07,May,25 07:34 other posts 
Just wait until a minute man gets launched, accidentally...
By CAT52! [Ignore] 08,May,25 00:39 other posts 
Well, Lollipop, I love YOUR minute man. Of course, I’m hoping for more than a minute.


By phart [Ignore] 06,May,25 16:04 other posts 
what say ye?
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Our strong leader started bombing the hell out of the houthis and they have said they will stop attacking ships, and Trump said his bombing would stop.
there you have it, that is what a leader does, he stops shit.
would biden have done that>? i know harris would not have, she would have talked to them and then laughed at them and the attacks would never cease.


By leopoldij [Ignore] 05,May,25 21:21 other posts 
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By phart [Ignore] 02,May,25 22:31 other posts 
AS i have said before, soro's is a problem for American and needs to be captured and arrested and put on trial for his actions.
here is direct evidence he is behind illegals getting away with serious crimes.
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By CAT52! [Ignore] 28,Apr,25 14:11 other posts 
Trump's approval rating today is 33%. Is it ok now to say he's a loser?
By Gntlmn [Ignore] 28,Apr,25 18:58 other posts 
I'd say he's "under" the sewer
By CAT52! [Ignore] 28,Apr,25 19:15 other posts 
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By leopoldij [Ignore] 02,May,25 14:20 other posts 
@trump@ would truly:

You're spreading fake news. You just can't see the reality. Trump is as popular as ever. In fact, we're going to canonize him. The first person to become a saint before death. We have faith. You don't. We're men and women of deep faith and submission to our dear leader. Stop linking faith news.
By Cody8789 [Ignore] 02,May,25 19:38 other posts 
I don’t know where you got trumps approval rating, but it’s at 42% not 33
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Leo, everyone on this site knows you didn’t say that but you
By leopoldij [Ignore] 02,May,25 20:40 other posts 
I didn't say that.
By phart [Ignore] 02,May,25 22:27 other posts 
yea, i read 41 on 1 site,33 on another and so on.
it all depends on who you ask.
if you ask a group of tree hugging,liberal hippies, of course you will get a low reading.
if you ask a group of rino's, you will get a low rating.

if you ask me personally, i approve for the most part of what he is doing because i take the time to try to understand the why behind it.

where i disagree is tarrifs on stuff we do not make here in the Us , cars-yes, tv's-no.
we make cars here, but there are no tv's made here and etc.

but the idea ultimately may not work because the minimum wage is to high in the US to make things less exspensive. not to mention all the crazy regulations that drove the jobs away in the first place.


By CAT52! [Ignore] 02,May,25 14:05 other posts 
Send This To Your Grandma, Dad, Or MAGA-Supporting Family When They Ask You How Trump’s Economy Is Going
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By leopoldij [Ignore] 02,May,25 14:16 other posts 
Let me reply as if I were phart:

Do you expect the economy to become better immediately? Impossible. The reason is because he inherited a bad economy from the extreme left of Biden. In fact, it turns out that the Democrats were hiding everything. The economy is much worse than appeared to be. In these circumstances, trump will do his best. He will fix the economy, but that will take time. Biden is to blame. If necessary, trump still stay in power for 8 years in order to make the economy great again. He will sacrifice his time, his personal life, everything, in order to achieve all that. There's never been a better president than trump. You're just being impatient and always want to blame the Republicans for the failures of the the left.


By phart [Ignore] 30,Apr,25 16:51 other posts 
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oh i am sorry, this goes against your narrative.


By CAT52! [Ignore] 29,Apr,25 16:23 other posts 
Michigan's unemployment rate for March jumped to 5.5%. Good going, Clown
By phart [Ignore] 29,Apr,25 17:25 other posts 
yea,it's a democrat run state.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 30,Apr,25 05:04 other posts 
Better be careful, because those democrat run states, pay for the republican run states.
By CAT52! [Ignore] 30,Apr,25 08:11 other posts 
But it's the Clown's policies causing the problem. Policies don't stop because the area is called Michigan or Illinois or whatever. Right now unemployment is going up and the economy is tanking IN THE UNITED STATES. Using your argument then the country is under a Republican administration and with the Clown as it's head.


By CAT52! [Ignore] 29,Apr,25 07:57 other posts 

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All right. Is this proof?🤣😈🖕
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 29,Apr,25 11:25 other posts 
The lowest approval rating of a president at 100 days into his presidency EVER.


By CAT52! [Ignore] 27,Apr,25 00:51 other posts 
Scuzz Twittly - Keep Yer Hands Off My PBR

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By phart [Ignore] 17,Apr,25 22:47 other posts 
candle company stocks are soaring in porter rico again.
yep,to damn lazy to trim the bushes away from a breaker. you can't fix that place. they won't help themselves by doing simple Maintenace on their equipment.
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By CAT52! [Ignore] 17,Apr,25 22:55 other posts 
It's no maintenance or trimming bushes. The island is poor and can't revamp their electric grid. It's like plugging every appliance you own into one bedroom outlet. The fuse blows. In their case it's the old equipment.
WOODY
By phart [Ignore] 18,Apr,25 08:04 other posts 
it clearly says bushes could have caused it,and the outdated equipment.
why don't they fix it>?
move some manufacturing jobs there so they can earn money and use it to reinvest in their island.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 18,Apr,25 08:17 other posts 
Manufacturing jobs on a small island can only exist with very low wages, because the costs of transportation are so high. They would all be working, making other people wealthy, but not themselves.
Private investments will just make the private investors rich, not the people. They need public investments increasing their economy, so they can invest in themselves.
By phart [Ignore] 18,Apr,25 08:22 other posts 
what would we get for those public investments?
at least if they had jobs there would be useful products or services for the betterment of society .they would also learn about self responsibility instead of bumming off the US
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 18,Apr,25 08:47 other posts 
TAXES!
Poor people are a burden to an economy, middle class people pay LOTS OF TAXES.
Middle class people also SPEND a lot, which is very important for your economy, since the reciprocal tariffs to Trump's tariffs are destroying your export.

Why are you only for investments when rich selfish assholes do it, to benefit themselves? What's sooooooo bad about public investments, to benefit ALL?
By phart [Ignore] 18,Apr,25 08:59 other posts 
because they are always wasted on those that won't do for themselves.
and you go back a few years later and the place will still be a sesspool.

several of my neighbors have done mission work with church groups, going to far away places like porter rico and building a new school or something,only to go back later and the school be gone and a bunch of huts built out of the materials, they tear down the school where their kids can learn things to better themselves and their kids are still uneducated.
By CAT52! [Ignore] 19,Apr,25 14:54 other posts 
Phart
they are always wasted on those that won't do for themselves.
and you go back a few years later and the place will still be a sesspool.

Why do you always assume people are lazy?
By phart [Ignore] 19,Apr,25 17:23 other posts 
why can't you go back and read about all the supplies that were sent down there in trucks only to be found later on to be rotting in the trailers because no one unloaded the stuff>?why can't you see that even you are dirt poor,you can pickup 1 of those plastic bags flying around in the wind and pickup trash and fill it up? stop defending the folks that do little or nothing for themselves. if their hands are turned down holding a tool doing work and they still need help,thats 1 thing but their hands are always turned up
By CAT52! [Ignore] 19,Apr,25 18:01 other posts 
That's mostly B's, but, even if true, it happened on the Clown's first administration. How long are you going to bring that up? I seem to recall the Clown throwing paper towels as a gesture of help. Give it up Phart.
By phart [Ignore] 19,Apr,25 22:20 other posts 
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"because they are always wasted on those that won't do for themselves."

No, it's wasted on those that ONLY do for themselves!
Why give money to the wealthy, when they don't need it
and only use that money for more wealth for THEMSELVES?
That's exactly what caused the sesspool you are already in.
The US has the highest GDP of the modern world, with poverty
and misery that is comparable with piss poor countries.

You keep thinking that I support a welfare state. I AM NOT!!
I don't want to pay people to sit on their ass, I want to pay for education,
healthcare, infrastructure, public investments in strengthening the economy
and then putting the profits of that back into the system to improve it more
and benefit the people. Not just for short term profit for the few, but long term improvement of civilization. And of course to stop the imminent destruction
of that civilization, or (worst case scenario) humanity completely.

I support equal opportunities, by helping people maximize their potential.
What you are doing is the opposite. But that is a recent development.
When America was at its prime, it did help people maximize their potential.
Then you switched to helping the winners win more and you punished who couldn't.
Now you voted for a guy who says America is broken and who says M.A.G.A..
That's confirming my point. America was great when a mechanic could buy a house and send his kids to university. The policies that you support are making that increasingly impossible. YOU are doing the opposite of MAGA.
By phart [Ignore] 20,Apr,25 00:23 other posts 
name 1 country besides the us that taxes it's people and sends the money away to another country>? which i know that porter rico is a us territory but still, a viable question for the rest
By CAT52! [Ignore] 20,Apr,25 07:57 other posts 
United States: $34.73 billion
Germany: $25.01 billion
United Kingdom: $18.10 billion
European Union: $16.44 billion
Japan: $11.46 billion
France: $11.33 billion
Italy: $5.86 billion
Sweden: $5.56 billion
Netherlands: $4.96 billion
Canada: $4.30 billion
Norway: $4.12 billion
Switzerland: $3.14 billion
Australia: $3.04 billion
Spain: $2.56 billion
Denmark: $2.45 billion
South Korea: $2.20 billion
Belgium: $2.20 billion
Austria: $1.25 billion
Finland: $1.08 billion
Ireland: $840 million
Poland: $680 million
New Zealand: $450 million
Luxembourg: $420 million
Portugal: $380 million
Greece: $310 million
Czech Republic: $300 million
Hungary: $150 million
Slovak Republic: $120 million
Slovenia: $80 million
Iceland: $70 million
By phart [Ignore] 20,Apr,25 08:55 other posts 
from this list, how much money does the netherlands send to the US as foreign aid?

what about south korea?
By CAT52! [Ignore] 20,Apr,25 12:35 other posts 
I don't know but that wasn't the question. I would venture to say that foreign aid generally goes to a needy country. If the Clown keeps it up, we might need help. We are already a third world banana republic thanks to him.
By phart [Ignore] 20,Apr,25 17:59 other posts 
if you read it,it was. elon ask the same question the other day

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Elon asked a great question: "How many countries tax their citizens and send money to the USA?"
By CAT52! [Ignore] 20,Apr,25 18:38 other posts 
I don't care who asked the question. The answer is still the same. I guess President Musk is ignorant of the fact and too lazy to find out.
"how much money does the netherlands send to the US as foreign aid?"

Does the US need foreign aid?
Your GDP/capita is higher than ours. Why do your people need our help?

Generally speaking, Dutch organizations rarely focus directly on helping people in the United States, because the U.S. is considered a wealthy, developed country.
However, there is definitely some of our taxes going to help Americans, through the global Red Cross network, Médecins Sans Frontières (Known for work in war zones and developing countries, they made an exception in 2020 by providing medical aid to underserved populations in the U.S. during the COVID-19 pandemic). Then there are some donations from Dutch people supporting American Nonprofit Organizations, which are helping uninsured or impoverished Americans, like Remote Area Medical (RAM), The Health Wagon, National Association of Free & Charitable Clinics (NAFC) and Partners in Health.

The US is a very wealthy country, but it treats its people like shit.
That's a political choice. You still have some form of democracy left, providing Americans a choice in how they are treated by their elected government.
Dutch people prefer helping people who don't get your opportunities.
However, when the Trump/Musk regime takes away all your opportunities to make a good life for yourself, we might change our policies on that. We are however a much smaller country, so our aid to Americans could never be effective.
However, if the US turns into the Axis of Evil, joining Russia, Saudi Arabia,
Iran and North Korea, then we cannot help you, because that would be helping the demise of humanity.
By phart [Ignore] 25,Apr,25 17:18 other posts 
do your charities get tax dollars?
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 26,Apr,25 12:20 other posts 
Yes, Dutch tax money does go to charities, but in a few specific ways:

1. Government Support for (International) Charitable Organizations

The Dutch government funds various organizations that are considered charitable through subsidies and grants. Some examples include:

Development Aid: The Netherlands spends billions of euros annually on international aid. This includes funding for NGOs like the Red Cross, Oxfam Novib, and UN organizations such as UNICEF or the UN Refugee Agency (UNHCR). This is similar to how the U.S. government funds USAID or gives money to the United Nations.

Environmental and Nature Organizations: The government supports organizations that protect nature and the environment. For instance, Natuurmonumenten (a Dutch nature conservation group) and Staatsbosbeheer (a government agency managing forests and nature reserves) receive public funding. These could be compared to organizations like the National Park Service or The Nature Conservancy in the U.S.

Culture and Heritage: Museums, art institutions, and cultural foundations also receive public funding. These are sometimes considered charities, depending on their structure. This is somewhat like how the U.S. National Endowment for the Arts or Smithsonian Institution is publicly funded.

2. Tax Benefits for Donations to Charities

In the Netherlands, individuals can deduct charitable donations from their taxes if the charity has what's called ANBI status (Algemeen Nut Beogende Instelling), which means it serves the public good. This is similar to a 501(c)(3) nonprofit status in the U.S. So in this sense, the government indirectly supports charities by reducing taxes on people who donate to them.


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