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By phart [Ignore] 27,Apr,24 14:27 other posts 
Democrat lost more than his shirt in san fransico,the land of rice a roni and street thugs.
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By leopoldij [Ignore] 27,Apr,24 15:43 other posts 
By the way, you should know that when you link stuff from Microsoft, one must have an account in order to read them; otherwise did, they're not available to a person without an account. And, of course, many won't open an account in order to access that shit site.
By phart [Ignore] 27,Apr,24 18:10 other posts 
I don't have a account, it just comes up when I do a search.
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By leopoldij [Ignore] 27,Apr,24 19:26 other posts 
Then, I guess, it's free only for people in the US. I honestly can't access this content.
By phart [Ignore] 27,Apr,24 23:44 other posts 
good gosh, i can't either on that last link and I just went to it and thought it was easy,
I will try again.
Adam Schiffs luggage is stolen from his car in san fransisco.
Perhaps a uk paper will have a page?
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By leopoldij [Ignore] 28,Apr,24 00:17 other posts 
Ok, I accessed this last one from the guardian. Works. Sad story. But he should be careful in places with lots of thieves.

Sometimes a page will give different kind of privileges to different users, depending on their location, on the number of times they accessed the site before, on the kind of computer they have and on the type of browser.
By phart [Ignore] 28,Apr,24 09:27 other posts 
I use the firefox browser for most stuff, have been using Brave for youtube nowadays as it cuts out all the ads
I just find it so ironic that soft on crime democrats are getting socked in the wallet just as everyone else by having to pay for car windows and most property to replace what was taken.
IF they kept the crooks locked up,95% of it would not be happening.
Is that newsworthy to you? Ahuh, ahuh, a Democrat got his shit stolen.
Yeah, crime exists, Democrats know that. But, just like your Republican politicians, they are all rich and don't have to care about living in the world that you live in.

Still, Democrats actually have good plans to reduce crime.
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The irony is, REPUBLICANS think 'defunding the police' will help.
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Republicans just keep telling you that tougher punishment will help.
It's nothing but bullshit for gullible people. They are incapable of doing anything useful, so the only thing they have to get voters, is lying that everything is getting worse because of the Democrats and then saying that they have the solutions.

Republicans are incapable of imagining solutions, just like you.
This is the level of your thinking:
- Mental illness? -> Lock them up!
- Crime? -> Just kill all the criminals!
- Immigrants coming for your jobs? -> Build a wall!
- Poor people? -> They should work harder!
- People cannot afford medication? -> Leave it up to the market!
- School shooting? -> Give guns to the stressed out teachers!
- Climate change? -> The earth's weather has always changed!
- Unwanted pregnancies? -> Their own fault for fucking!
- Black people protesting police violence? -> Shut the fuck up!
- Students protesting genocide by Israel? -> Shut the fuck up!
- Free speech? -> My right to say the N-word and be a douche online!

I wouldn't want to straw-man you, so tell me if you don't agree with any of them.
In any case, it's the thinking of primitive people, and it's what your mind is reduced to, when you only watch right-wing media.

Republicans have a House majority. It's their responsibility to create laws to provide those solutions, even if they are your stupid solutions. But they have not! None of the problems ever get solved when a Republican is in power. They stop talking about those problems when a Republican is in power, but as soon as a Democrat enters the White house, all those problems are back, the day after. What happened?
Didn't your president solve those problems?

Sure, your House majority has to work with the Democrat majority in the Senate, but they didn't even try. There has never been a House this ineffectieve ever. They are only fighting among themselves, because some of them want to do nothing and shut down the government completely and others want to keep the country running.
None of them actually want to do anything USEFUL.
By phart [Ignore] 28,Apr,24 09:26 other posts 
you know as well as I do if the legs don't part,nothing grows in the womb
so why would anyone disagree with that 1?
You are not 100% wrong in most of your thinking,the problem is you don't realize, there is NO FIXING alot of the people out there that are on drugs or that commit crimes by habit.
You waste time and money on rehabing someone and the next day after they are free from jail they are right back in.
Dope heads, they are hooked, and it is their fault for the most part,no one held a gun to their head and said,"take this". they took it on their own.

Work earns a wage, it does help poverty.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 30,Apr,24 11:29 other posts 
So, basically, you agreed with every point, is what you're saying.

You are tricked by 'populism'. It is a belief in simple solutions to complex problems. Some of those problems are real, but they always misrepresent the causes.
When people don't understand the causes, there is no possibility of introducing real solutions. That's why populism always fails in solving the problems.
In fact, mostly the problems will only get worse. It always fails, but keeps pointing
to others for their failure.

"When populism runs out of road, it blames the road."

You keep blaming people. How come that your people suck so much then?
Americans are the hardest working people in the modern world. Then why are there so much more poor people in the US, than in most of the modern world?
It just doesn't make sense.
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By phart [Ignore] 30,Apr,24 11:48 other posts 
because there aren't as many people working hard in America as you are lead to believe.
THe definition of "hard work" has changed drastically over the years.

Hard work is going down in the coal mines , hard work is welding pipe lines, digging ditches. Used to be that running heavy machinery like bulldozers was hard work but now they are enclosed ,air conditioned, gps navigated and so on to a point it is hardly more difficult that driving a Toyota.

Young people think working 8 hours at Mc Donalds is hard work, and that type thing is what skews the numbers to the benefit of the stats you read.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 30,Apr,24 12:04 other posts 
If hard work reduces poverty, why are they so poor in countries where people are doing the most and the hardest work?

You worked hard, when you worked. You know it didn't pay well.
I sit on my ass all day and that pays a lot more.

That hard work, you are supporting, is terribly inefficient.
Machinery makes working much more efficient.
That bulldozer required a hardened man, now any woman can do it.
That's why productivity has gone through the roof and is still climbing.
That's creating more value with less people. That added value is just mostly going to the wealthy. That's why the middle class, doing the actual work, is declining and why the upper class, who don't do any hard work, is more wealthy than ever before.

If you value hard work so much, why do you like the wealthy so much?
None of them are shoveling coal or welding pipes.
By phart [Ignore] 30,Apr,24 12:14 other posts 
Without the wealthy, who is going to pay for the research, development, salary's of the jobs the hard working people do?

Also I was thinking and was coming back to mention another point.
Do these charts and specs take into account what is considered wealthy in other countries compared to the US?

Jeff bezo's is wealthy in the US, but Strive Masiyiwa is considered wealthy in zimbabwa.
BIG difference in the amount of money


By phart [Ignore] 12,Jan,23 10:45 other posts 
Illegals are really "grateful" for the help they get.
Look at the wasted food, and etc.
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By CAT-2 [Ignore] 12,Jan,23 11:23 other posts 
First, they are LEGAL. Second, so what? Either the hotel is making money or they would have been kicked out. Phart, one example doesn't make any difference. Get over this hatred for illegals.
By phart [Ignore] 12,Jan,23 11:28 other posts 
This is not about hatred,this is about wastefulness .That was enough food to feed our homeless for a week or more being thrown away because of those ungrateful people's wasteful mindset.It's free to them so they don't care,it is not free to the tax payer.
And I doubt there is much money being made,you haven't saw the place once the illegals leave. May not be worth rebuilding.
And I Doubt this is the only place this waste is happening.
It is 1 thing to come here asking for help.But when you waste that help,and fight and fuck and tear up everything,that is when you should be sent back to where ever the hell you came from.And all that sex in the hall ways is only leading to even MORE babies to have to feed because once they fall out of their mothers worn out holes, they are citizens, for the country to keep up.
I can't believe you can't comprehend waste
And another thing,there were plenty of homeless people already in New York that could have been put up in those hotels with that SAME federal money. Why are citizens being denied this luxury and only the illegals or whatever the fuck is ok to call them get it all free?
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By leopoldij [Ignore] 12,Jan,23 12:26 other posts 
Cat is right
By phart [Ignore] 12,Jan,23 13:13 other posts 
I knew you would agree it is ok to leave our legal citizens starveing and homeless and let the illegals throw away food and desimate our resources.You think the world is a endless horn of plenty,wrong,it has a bottom and eventually people will see it,when they hit it.
I didn't change the subject on the thread you made,I started this 1 to show that you aren't the only 1 asking questions.
that can't get answers rather they make sense or not.
I know the world is dangerous.and until people are deterred from harming each other and learn to value life, nothing will change, except maby the tools if your type of folks have their way.
By leopoldij [Ignore] 12,Jan,23 16:08 other posts 
The existence of poverty is due to there being so many filthy rich, individuals who have more money than entire nations.
Some of their money should be redistributed to poor people or, better yet, by creating new sustainable conditions for the welfare
of the poor. Nobody should own more than, say, 10,000,000,000, that is like owning 10 million luxurious houses each 10 million dollars worth. It should be illegal to have that much money. It's too much and such people are a threat to the stability of a nation (because they can, for example, pay politicians, buy armies , etc).

That's the sustainable solution.

Together with an obvious disease: there are too many people on this planet. We should go down to at most 5 billion people by asking people not too have too many children.
By phart [Ignore] 12,Jan,23 19:55 other posts 
OH my Goodness? You just discribed George Soro's!
He has literally bankrupted 2 countries.
But he gets a pass because he supports liberal causes.
A conservitive leaning person of his caliber would be hunted down by Seal team 6 like a terrorist.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 29,Apr,24 12:35 other posts 
What a ridiculous victim complex. Conservative biljonairs are running the whole world into a war-stricken hellscape and no one is touching them at all. They are respected by politicians, the media and you.
That story of George Soros gets more ridiculous every time I hear it. Some sites on the internet now claim he broke 15 countries. Which one are your 2? Malaysia and England? He used their own system, legally, to enrich himself. Both Malaysia and England are fine, not bankrupt. You would endorse that as being a smart person, every day, but because he's mildly culturally liberal and donates to Democrats, he's your chosen bad guy.

You just defended Warren Buffett from being a villain, but he's exactly the same as George Soros. They hack the capitalist system to create money from nothing, to enrich themselves. At least they used smart tricks. High-frequency trading is just abusing the power of a server farm to gain a millisecond advantage to take advantage of the trading system, to create money from nothing. It wastes ridiculous amount of electricity, raises your electricity costs, steals billions of dollars from the economy and creates stock crashes too. They are not evil or villains to do that, people are rubes to keep supporting the system that allows them to keep doing that. Democrats want to restrict it Republicans keep supporting it.

Like I said before, you only see the faults in the system,
when it's a Democrat or a liberal abusing the system.
When it's a Republican or conservative doing much worse,
then you always find a way to defend it.
By CAT-2 [Ignore] 12,Jan,23 18:54 other posts 
Phart, wouldn’t it be great if we could roll back time to a few years ago? Say, to 2008? There were no homeless people then. Vets had all their problems taken cared off. Insurance companies were well regulated. There were no homosexuals. Disabled people had full support of the US government. Illegal aliens were all stopped at the border. There was no discrimination of any people. We all had health insurance for life. Ahh, those were the times, my friend.
Your legal citizens are starving and homeless, because they are exploited by the same people that illegals are. It's not the lack of resources you should worry about, because there is an abundance of it, it's who controls those resources, why you have citizens who are starving and homeless.
By CAT-2 [Ignore] 20,Jan,23 14:17 other posts 
Every country has citizens that are starving and homeless. The people who do the exploiting exist in every country. Even yours, Ananas. They may exploit for different reasons but the end is the same. There's the have and the have nots. Even in the most socialistic country there's that one that has a Datcha and a car with a driver because "he is important to making the system work". I do understand what you, Ananas, are trying to convey, but, "exploited" doesn't really fit here. While many resources are available through corporate efforts, not all is controlled by Wall Street types. I know where I can pick fruit and veggies for personal consumption. I know where a Ma and Pa grocery store sells fresh meats. I know how to bake bread and make very good and healthy meals. I don't need a car, a bicycle is good enough. So, you see, it would be hard to exploit me. And, before you say, "Ah, but what about money?". That, too, is not at the mercy of the Big Guys. I have a service (I have a nursing degree) I can sell. You are European and as such, your history includes many times the citizentry have been subjugated and it's natural to shout for equality. In our country, despite all the discrimination and police brutality, we can still say we are relatively free to be happy.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 25,Jan,23 10:43 other posts 
"The people who do the exploiting exist in every country. Even yours, Ananas."
That's true. That is the problem I'm addressing all the time.

If by your reference to a 'Datcha', you imply that Russia is, or ever was the most socialistic country; it isn't and it never was. It was at most communist; an authoritarian government controlling everything. Socialism means full democratic control of the PEOPLE. Russia never had that, it was always controlled by the wealthy elite and it still is now. The people never had any power and even now Putin does some sham elections, they still have no power. The most 'socialistic' countries are the Scandinavian countries. And there are the least starving and homeless people in the world there. When people refer to Venezuela, they know nothing. That's a corrupt state run by oil barons, an oligarchy is not socialism.
The people have no power at all.

A free market is part of capitalism. It doesn't mean that everything is owned and controlled by corporations. But who is owner of the farm, or the mortgage of the farm or who owns that mom and pop shop, who collects their rent, who controls the money you pay with or the method you pay by. Where did the farm buy their seeds, or the manure. Who competes with that farm and mom and pop shop, determining the price you are willing to pay, where does your money come from?
When there is an economic crisis, who gets bailed out with your tax-dollars,
that self-pick farm, the mom and pop shop, or big banks and corporations?
In all those steps, corporations have lots of influence over what you think is an uncontrolled free market.

In the past, everyone was exploited. We come from a time of lords and serfs.
It's true that people are more free to be happy now, but don't be complacent, because your freedom is fragile and the time of lords and serfs is closer than you think. For many uneducated working people, it's already a reality that is almost inescapable. They are living in their car, on the parking lot of the factory, because they don't have money for a house and they work too many hours to travel home anyway. That bar of exploitation is moving up, to more people we used to call the 'middle class'. How many jobs do you know, that used to pay enough to house and feed a whole family and now doesn't pay enough for one person? Are there less people doing those jobs now? Or are there now just more people with jobs that don't pay enough to house and feed them?
By phart [Ignore] 12,Jan,23 14:22 other posts 
Leo,since you like stats,
Check these out.
A near-record 22,077 single adults slept in shelters each night in October 2022. Over the course of City Fiscal Year 2022, 102,656 different homeless adults and children slept in the New York City Department of Homeless Services (DHS) shelter system. This includes 29,653 homeless children.
Did you read that? over 29,000 homeless KIDS! IN 1 city.
No resources to house them except in "shelters". BUT suddenly when some of bidens puppets are shipped in from the border, there is 1000's of dollars to pay for hotels,food,and etc.
WHY???
Citizens first, America FIRST.
By CAT-2 [Ignore] 12,Jan,23 18:47 other posts 
The question is why are they there. They are there because a REPUBLICAN governor bussed them there. Those 29,000 NY homeless, would they have been any more or less homeless if those LEGAL immigrants had not been .bussed BY FORCE by the Texas REPUBLICAN governor? I think not.
By phart [Ignore] 12,Jan,23 19:51 other posts 
You can't dodge the fact there was suddenly money coming out of nowhere for the illegals,that was not visable when needed for the citizens,
By CAT-2 [Ignore] 12,Jan,23 20:29 other posts 
You don't know where that money came from. Every city has a slush fund
By phart [Ignore] 12,Jan,23 22:09 other posts 
THen why don't they use it for solving problems with Americans?
Instead of waiting for illegals to get dropped on them? Hell they coulda sent the money to mexico and the immigrants coulda blown it there.
By CAT-2 [Ignore] 13,Jan,23 06:26 other posts 
You do realize these people presented themselves to border security and they were allowed in as any other immigrants seeking asylum, don't you?
By phart [Ignore] 19,Jan,23 20:41 other posts 
You HONESTLY think they are telling the truth or just repeating what some coyote told them to say after taking their money to get them to the border? Asylum means they are threatened and running for their lives. I can't believe that every 1 of them is running for their lives. they are running to free rides on our tab.
Hell I would learn a few phrases to if it meant me staying in a 400 dollar a night hotel for free how ever long I wanted to.
By CAT-2 [Ignore] 20,Jan,23 17:13 other posts 
In December 2022, the United States accepted 69refugees from Ukraine. In fiscal year 2022 - which ended September 30 - the U.S. had accepted a total of 1,610 Ukrainian refugees. The most Ukrainian refugees arrived in February of 2022, the same month that Ukraine was invaded by Russia.Jan 11, 2023

What is the word for Ukrainian coyote?
By phart [Ignore] 25,Jan,23 10:06 other posts 
Ukraine is actually at war in case you missed the news. And I am willing to bet once the war is over these folkes will go home.
Central america has been in rock throwing mode long before most immigrants were born. So their parents knew the score and shoulda kept their pants up and not brought kids into that world.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 25,Jan,23 10:50 other posts 
"So their parents knew the score and shoulda kept their pants up and not brought kids into that world."

Their life already sucks and then you deny them sex too.

Why do you think I am pro-choice? Because sometimes contraceptives fail and then I don't want people, who are in no shape to raise children, being forced to bring kids into a horrible world.
You understand the last part, but fail to understand that people should have a choice, better than the one you're offering.
By phart [Ignore] 25,Jan,23 11:09 other posts 
So who made all these rubbers that are failing? sheesh ,lawsuits may be in order?
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 25,Jan,23 11:34 other posts 
There are more contraceptives than just rubbers.
But like I said before, Republicans want to ban contraceptives too.
By CAT-2 [Ignore] 25,Jan,23 12:16 other posts 
That's not much of an argument, Phart, after all, your parents knew the score on the state of the US and they pulled their pants down.
By DarkMax [Ignore] 28,Apr,24 10:46 other posts 
Coyote is a species of canine native to North America.
There is no wild coyote in Ukraine. So, coyote in Ukrainian is koyot ( койот ).
You SAY "Citizens first, America FIRST", but you DO Elon Musk first, Jeff Bezos first.

Isn't 200 billion enough for them to start thinking about 'the citizens'?
It's your idea of capitalism, that the wealthy run the country, right?
So, how much more do they need to have, before you give them some responsibility?
A trillion? Ten trillion? 99% of all the money? 100%? WHEN????

If the wealthy don't have that responsibility, than who?
You want to give them all the power, but no responsibility?
Do you see the recipe for disaster now?
By phart [Ignore] 25,Jan,23 10:08 other posts 
Gee,is Amazon fully automated? No, they have employees to work for them.Supplying jobs.
Does Elon build all of his cars? Does he do all the design work and welding? No,he hires people for that and pay them very well.
Without those 2 people,how many 1000's would be working elsewhere,for less money,if at all?
ALOT of them.

So these rich people do take some responsibility for the citizens.The citizens that are willing to get educated and work. Not the 1's that want to lay around at starbucks drinking 10 dollar latte's while hoping sleepy joe erases their college debt from their useless degree.

Oh,by the way,have you forgot Nuero link? You know the company Elon started to design brain implants for the blind and so forth?To help the disabled?
Does George soro's take THAT kind of action for others? No,he spends his money created confusion, riots and spreading hatred and division.
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Did Elon build all this by himself?

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Did Elon design this?
Employees did.
By CAT-2 [Ignore] 25,Jan,23 18:12 other posts 
They don't. It just works out that way because they have a business. They don't get up in the morning and ask themselves, " What can I do for people"
By phart [Ignore] 25,Jan,23 20:22 other posts 
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Most going to climate change but hey,liberals can't say he is not going to help.

even the worlds worst enemy george soros has given 32 billion to cause's he supports.
To say the rich do nothing for the people is a broad brush.
By phart [Ignore] 25,Jan,23 10:05 other posts 
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Gee,maby we should have taken them to florida.Maby they could steal from your neighbors instead of new yorkers.
These illegals were staying at 1 of the 400 dollar a night hotels by the way,on taxpayers dime.
What were they going to do with 12,000 dollars worth of stuff from a fancy store? I doubt they were going to wear it.Probably shuttle it to a 3rd party for about 400 bucks to be sold at the flea markets somewhere
By CAT-2 [Ignore] 25,Jan,23 18:17 other posts 
You assume. Bottom line, they broke the law. They got caught. They'll have a trial and, probably, found guilty. They'll be sentenced and will have to serve it. They will be deported. What I can't believe is that you prefer these people be bussed to Florida instead of New York. I can't believe you don't see why this bussing is wrong.
By phart [Ignore] 25,Jan,23 20:26 other posts 
The bussing is 1 of the best ideas yet to combat the issue of the out of control border.It has democrat mayors like from new york on tv talking about the problem.His ideas may not be the best,BUT if HE and other democrats are hollaring about it,it will bring the issue to the eyes of the democrats.
A few democrats may actually take time to learn the truth and may work in a positive way to a solution. Until he got a bunch of the illegals bussed to him the Mayor of new york did not give 2 shits about the struggles of other citys and states. Now he does. That is what you need. Instead of being "woke" WAKE UP!
By CAT-2 [Ignore] 26,Jan,23 13:10 other posts 
Phart, don't you think everyone in the country knows there's a human crisis occuring in our southern border? What, exactly, did this stunt do to come up with a solution? Millions of taxpayers dollars are being spent, and for what? So some dumbass Republican governor can look good for the next election? Because Texas gets nothing from this. Like you say, all that money could have gone to help the homeless and vets.
You blame the Democrats, but, what do you think they'll be able to do? You think McCarthy and the other Republicans in the House will let the Biden administration come up with a solution? Not happening.
By phart [Ignore] 26,Jan,23 13:57 other posts 
The democrats do not want a solution,they are enjoying the mess.
As for what they could do, CLOSE THE FUCKING BORDER .
There is no war down in central america right now,so no reason for asylum.
By CAT-2 [Ignore] 26,Jan,23 14:22 other posts 
How?


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I am putting this here so leo and annass can see it
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folks are always talking about republicans and their money, this shines a different light. liberals that married into money spending it to insure more crime
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 23,Apr,24 08:11 other posts 
What relation are you trying to make between the article and what you are saying?

"liberals that married into money spending it to insure more crime" ????

The article is speaking about "The recent crime wave in American cities".
That's absolute bullshit; every type of crime is down a lot, everywhere.
They are just making up nonsense to justify more nonsense.
By phart [Ignore] 23,Apr,24 14:01 other posts 
"The reality is that there’s big money behind criminal justice reform. In California, Attorney General Rob Bonta and others have been heavily funded by philanthropists, many of whom inherited or married into money. "

Heres what needs to be understood.
"It remains to be seen whether angry voters and exasperated urban business owners will force more big-city Democrats to move toward the center on the issue of law and order. But even if they do, the damage in the form of lost lives, stolen property and blighted neighborhoods done by progressive prosecutors funded by misguided Democratic plutocrats cannot be undone."
By CAT-2 [Ignore] 23,Apr,24 18:07 other posts 
Philanthropist
a person who seeks to promote the welfare of others, especially by the generous donation of money to good causes.
Phart, you make it sound as a bad thing. The truth is that major crime is down in big cities and going up in red states.
By phart [Ignore] 23,Apr,24 18:11 other posts 
Why is it everytime I check my email my local community board is busting at the seems with camera footage of folks cars being broke into while parked in peoples driveways, shootings, muggings, all this stuff is still filling our news cast every day.
By CAT-2 [Ignore] 24,Apr,24 17:24 other posts 
You live in the Carolinas, a Red state.
By phart [Ignore] 24,Apr,24 18:59 other posts 
This aint in carolina, but over there,
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Crime hasn't went down, it is just less talked about to make it look like things are good.
Things are bad,really bad.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 25,Apr,24 09:51 other posts 
Showing news articles about crimes is not an argument.
We are not saying crime is GONE, we are saying it is DOWN.

The media has an incentive to keep you hooked on news.
Then the 24/7 news channels have nothing else to do,
than grinding out every little story to its absolute depth.
That gives people the idea that the world is turning uglier by the day.
That's mostly perception, crime really has gone down year by year,
with maybe a temporary uptick here and there, when there is a crisis
and people are more desperate and stressed out.
Check some statistics, before you make claims on your feelings.
Your feelings are based on hypes and lies.

The only crime that is worrying is mass shootings. You cannot solve that with criminal justice reform, not in a liberal way and not in a right-wing way.
The only thing that would help is improving mental healthcare and gun reform. Republicans think mental healthcare is too expensive and think that gun reform is an afrond against the 2nd amendment. That means that the worst crime know to man is flourishing, while crimes that can be reduced with policing has been declining for decades.
By phart [Ignore] 25,Apr,24 14:53 other posts 
mental health would not be a problem had the insane asylums not been closed off years ago and the people sent out with pills in hand to cope and be a tumor on society.
By CAT-2 [Ignore] 25,Apr,24 16:11 other posts 
I would check your sources again.
"According to the Definitive Healthcare platform, there are 820 active psychiatric hospitals in the U.S. as of March 2023."
By phart [Ignore] 25,Apr,24 18:02 other posts 
Well they must have plenty of openings.
Sure, lock'em all up, that's your solution for everything.
Mental healthcare is a preventative measure, for normal people
who are going through rough times to get help, so they can cope.
It's a good investment to help people back on their feet.

In your system, how are they going to decide who to lock up?
People who are suffering from depression? Lock them up!
A guy having a hard time dealing with a divorce? Lock him up!
A nerdy guy who suffering torment from his schoolmates? Lock him up!
A postman got fired from his job and is posting hate online? Lock him up!
That's what you have to do to prevent the mass murders of the last years.
They were mostly normal people with issues like these.
They just went crazy, because they had no one to turn to.
You will have to lock up millions of people, to catch the one who would go crazy.

But sure, think of the absolute worst and most expensive solution, for something that can be treated very effectively, if you only spend some tax-dollars for some good things. Tax-dollars that will come back, from the people who are able to function in society again.

I might have to rethink my love for democracy. People like you can vote too.
By phart [Ignore] 25,Apr,24 18:14 other posts 
I was bullied in school, and you know what? the school never did a damn thing about it. THAT's 1 thing that could change.
Don't lock up the victim of harassment or bullying, lock up the damn bully's because later they will be come the thieves and rapist and murderers. most sicko's start out being bully's in school, torturing animals and other kids, only to become worse as they age. that is a problem that could be fixed to make life more pleasant for everyone.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 26,Apr,24 08:05 other posts 
And you're obviously damaged for life.
If they helped you, maybe you would have a better opinion of people.
You're right that most people 'turn to the dark side', when they're young.
Most of them are not bad by nature, their parents are just bad parents.
When teachers see children turn bad, they should send the whole family to caregivers. The parents might need even more help, than the kid itself.
That's exactly how you "make life more pleasant for everyone."
Better parents -> better kids -> less thieves, rapist and murderers.
By CAT-2 [Ignore] 26,Apr,24 08:31 other posts 
Amen to that, Ananas. We treat the child (sometimes) and totally ignore the home life. Kids learn to be bullies or delinquents.
Phart, I'm sorry for your suffering growing up. My brothers and I, we protected each other. My older brother, Teddy, made sure no one messed with me. We both made sure no one bothered Rick or Tom, our younger brothers. He and I would gang up on anyone and everyone if they as much as looked the wrong way at them. We also protected our friends. Everyone knew that you didn't mess with the CAT family.
By phart [Ignore] 26,Apr,24 11:26 other posts 
I will never forget 1 of the high school wrestlers that used to beat me everyday on the bus. Many years later ,a scrawny, disheveled looking fellow,that looked strung out on drugs, saw me in a store where I was getting a cold drink a cracker ,back when you could still afford them at the convience store.He made eye contact with me and started crying like a newborn baby. Got on his knees literally right there in the aisle and said "please forgive me for what I did to you when we were kids" and went on and on and on just crying his eyes out.By then we had a crowd. I just said, "get up off your damn knees and stand like a mand and get over it,that was decades ago and I am grown and past it now.sure you hurt me and hurt me bad, but I am over, and you need to be to.".
I heard later he shot himself.
So the bully didn't win.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 27,Apr,24 15:48 other posts 
Many bullies are having mental health issues themselves.
They are venting frustration and anger, from being abused themselves,
or they feel the need to demean other people to feel better about themselves. Mentally stable and happy people don't do things like that.
You shouldn't be surprised how he ended up.

Still, there are many people who keep abusing other people, like they did in school, but just by being hateful to other people. I think they are incapable of ever loving and respecting anyone, even the ones closest to them.
They are the husbands that beat or just belittle their wives and children.
Then the chain of misery continues, because the children most of the time turn out the same way.
That's what mental healthcare is also good for; cut the chain of abuse.
By phart [Ignore] 27,Apr,24 18:01 other posts 
cutting that chain of abuse can also be accomplished by REMOVEING the abuser from the picture.
Having witnessed how the medicines work that are used for mentally illness, it would be difficult for me to support turning a father back loose with his family while on heavy dose's of medicine. oh for a few weeks or months, johnny is doing great .finishing all his puzzles and making his own chocolate milk and fetching his own cookies.medicines that we perscribed but still don't know how they work are fixing the problem.Turn him back to his family and his air traffic controller job and let's move on to Tyron and billy.
3 months later johnny kills his family by driving off a cliff.
That's exaggerated to make a point. The real case I witnessed consisted of a 35 year old nutjob that was being medicated, got drunk and while drunk had a reaction to his meds. He went to the hospital er and ask for a certain med that he was hooked on because he was buying it off the street, of course they refused.He was not a patient and they could not verify he needed the meds. So he proceeded to walk up to the 5 th story of the parking deck and jump off into the bushes down below, tossing both leg bones out the pants legs.As they rolled him back into the er he said, "Now can I have some pain meds".
THat is what treatment for mental illness accomplishes. it keeps nut cases like him walking among us. Oh, yea, once he got out of the hospital from that , he decided he would kill himself 1 day after a dispute with his girlfriend. He walks out in front of a truck. Gets banged up so he can get some dope..
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 28,Apr,24 08:06 other posts 
Oh, sure, locking up their father or mother is surely going to help
those children to grow up like respectable citizens.

Mental healthcare is not just for mentally ill people, it's for people BEFORE they become mentally ill, to PREVENT them from becoming mentally ill.

Your community creates mental illness. You have many examples of people going crazy around you. I don't have those examples, because my community is still not as harsh and selfish as yours. The last few decades, that has been changing, because of right-wing politics. They have created lots of suffering for people, turning into lots of mental illness.
Still not as much as in the US, but if Dutch voters keep making stupid choices like you, mental illness will only become worse. Your political side is spreading a culture of selfishness and antagonism towards other people. It creates selfish assholes and it creates people who break down, because they cannot handle living in such a world.

Community is hardening. Every day we hear about more civil servants encountering violence. That's from people who grow up in a world that's being shaped by your ideas; there is no community looking out for you, you are on your own, get what you can, treat everyone around you like the enemy. Your ideas are turning everyone into predators, because that's what survival of the fittest demands.
Stop treating people like animals, and they won't become animals.


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